Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?

[fitzet]

While out kayaking along the coast last weekend, I passed a location that I thought might be good for a cache.

It would only be accessible by kayak. Maybe by RIB, but I would need to look again to see if there are suitable places for a RIB to 'dock'. Any other craft would be at risk of hitting rocks covered by tide.

The location would be a 45 minute paddle from a publicly accessible launch point. The waters are sheltered by cliff, but there is one patch of water that can be unstable with tidal flows.

Assuming it were to be approved and published, what would you think if you saw a new cache that you might not ever be able to get to, restricted by specialised equipment and weather ?

[Jumpin Jiminie]

Personally, I don't think it would be a problem for most people.

I have been looking at caches recently for an upcoming honeymoon in Bali and there are a few caches that are underwater and require scuba diving equipment.

It certainly sounds like it would be one to remember!

[Spark_ie]

There's no problem with a cache like that, as long as it's not seriously dangerous. There are plenty of caches on the tops of mountains which require certain skills - skills which not everyone will have. Just make sure the cache won't get washed away, and put appropriate warnings on the cache page

[FatFergie]

I wouldn't complain.... I probably wouldn't ever do it but I think there should be caches that are a definite challenge. In Stockholm there is a city centre cache that requires abseiling gear.

[hairytoeman]

We are not all equal.

I know there are some I will never physically get to, and other mental puzzle caches which risk exploding my head when I try to solve them. Good and bad, hard and easy, they all give us something to talk about.

Do you have the code for the Stockholm cache, it sounds interesting.

[klossner]

I had a kayak-only cache in my back yard: Kayak the Tualatin! Quite popular among paddlers.

[fitzet]

Thanks for those responses.

One other aspect of 'restrictive' is that I'm a fair weather paddler so would only be willing to maintain such a cache May through September. If it were logged as DNF in October - nothing would change until the following May.

[Spark_ie]

There's nothing stopping you disabling the cache for winter months. You will find that a number of people disable their mountain top caches during the winter as it can be dangerous. Of course, this doesn't stop people still going out there if they so wish. Also keep in mind that just because there is a DNF, that doesn't mean it's missing

[medic143]

Might not get too many takers for your effort in putting it out. I presume this one is a kayaker's cache and it's still unclaimed over a month later

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... 595bb47b0a

[dino]

Might not get too many takers for your effort in putting it out. I presume this one is a kayaker's cache and it's still unclaimed over a month later

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... 595bb47b0a

That would make it a much more special and significant find for me and one worth keeping for a milestone marker

[wildfowler]

Might not get too many takers for your effort in putting it out. I presume this one is a kayaker's cache and it's still unclaimed over a month later

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... 595bb47b0a

That would make it a much more special and significant find for me and one worth keeping for a milestone marker

I did look at that one for #700 but it's not a paddle I'd want to do on my own! Access for launching nearby isn't possible so it's quite a distance to paddle as far as I could see from the maps! I'll not give up hope on it yet tho! I just need back-up!

[FatFergie]

Do you have the code for the Stockholm cache, it sounds interesting.

I visited Stockholm in late winter 2008 and browsed for caches before I went. Can I find the one I was thinking of? I'm guessing it's been archived but it was on the north end of Sodermalm where there are some small cliffs. There is however still some climbing caches: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... y&decrypt= and http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... 7e3960d11f nearby.

[daraconn]

Might not get too many takers for your effort in putting it out. I presume this one is a kayaker's cache and it's still unclaimed over a month later

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... 595bb47b0a

If that's Loughan island, it's accessible by motorboat - the island I'm thinking of is considerably bigger than the description makes it sound ("some trees growing out of some rocks"). You can launch at Drumaheglish marina and it's a short run downstream.

About restrictive caches, you are free to place a cache in a difficult-to-access place if you wish.

[fitzet]

BUMP !

I still intend to set this cache. I have the basis of a description prepared, along with GPS data.

Part of me wants to include something about people taking suitable precautions for open sea kayaking and part of me wants to let people be adults and figure out for themselves what's appropriate.

Is there a 'standard' for issuing guidelines and warnings ?
Should a disclaimer be included ?

Thanks

[dino]

Is there a 'standard' for issuing guidelines and warnings ?

No

Should a disclaimer be included ?

If it makes you feel better then do, if not then don't bother and as you say let people work it out for themselves

I tend to put a disclaimer on my mountain caches but I think people are more prone to underestimating a mountain walk than a sea kayak

[SaaX]

This is what we wrote for our cache: http://coord.info/GC2AH2E

And another one that I really enjoyed: http://coord.info/GC298BF

[fitzet]

While out kayaking along the coast last weekend, I passed a location that I thought might be good for a cache.

**BUMP**

GC2RK2Y Casana Rock

[abbeyackbar]

Fantastic! Well done for setting this up. It's great to see a cache like this out in Howth. We won't be able to find this one any time soon unfortunately but I look forward to reading others logs and seeing their photos

Abbey

[Fjon]

This one looks great! Looking at a satellite picture it's really not very far out at sea, so I don't think it would be a very difficult journey with a kayak. Might even be possible to swim?

[medic143]

Sense a kayaking trip coming up this week. Have Thursday off and weather forecast looks okay.