March 13th 2017
When I established the forums in 2005 it was to offer a more richer web experience and greater functionality than the platform where we started this social adventure in 2003, Yahoo Groups. The forums were once a busy hive of activity and provided locals and visitors with a wealth of information just like the Geocaching Ireland Discussion Group on Facebook today.
It was a time where we didn't have the many social media platforms we have today, and it was a different time in terms of mobility and technology. There was no instant access to information, no Google Maps and a very limited base map on your GPSr. Mobile connectivity for me was a 9600bps Infrared connection from a Nokia to a laptop and in later times to a PDA using WAP.
As we moved into the social media era so did our forums users. Geocaching Ireland moved there too, and we have a thriving community on the Geocaching Ireland Discussion Group on Facebook. As a result, forum activity isn't what it used to be and I have taken the decision to disable new registrations to the forums and to make the forums read only so any information there can still be accessed.
The discussion hasn't ended, it has just moved. Join us on the Facebook Geocaching Ireland Discussion Group .
Donnacha
When I established the forums in 2005 it was to offer a more richer web experience and greater functionality than the platform where we started this social adventure in 2003, Yahoo Groups. The forums were once a busy hive of activity and provided locals and visitors with a wealth of information just like the Geocaching Ireland Discussion Group on Facebook today.
It was a time where we didn't have the many social media platforms we have today, and it was a different time in terms of mobility and technology. There was no instant access to information, no Google Maps and a very limited base map on your GPSr. Mobile connectivity for me was a 9600bps Infrared connection from a Nokia to a laptop and in later times to a PDA using WAP.
As we moved into the social media era so did our forums users. Geocaching Ireland moved there too, and we have a thriving community on the Geocaching Ireland Discussion Group on Facebook. As a result, forum activity isn't what it used to be and I have taken the decision to disable new registrations to the forums and to make the forums read only so any information there can still be accessed.
The discussion hasn't ended, it has just moved. Join us on the Facebook Geocaching Ireland Discussion Group .
Donnacha
Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
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Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
While out kayaking along the coast last weekend, I passed a location that I thought might be good for a cache.
It would only be accessible by kayak. Maybe by RIB, but I would need to look again to see if there are suitable places for a RIB to 'dock'. Any other craft would be at risk of hitting rocks covered by tide.
The location would be a 45 minute paddle from a publicly accessible launch point. The waters are sheltered by cliff, but there is one patch of water that can be unstable with tidal flows.
Assuming it were to be approved and published, what would you think if you saw a new cache that you might not ever be able to get to, restricted by specialised equipment and weather ?
It would only be accessible by kayak. Maybe by RIB, but I would need to look again to see if there are suitable places for a RIB to 'dock'. Any other craft would be at risk of hitting rocks covered by tide.
The location would be a 45 minute paddle from a publicly accessible launch point. The waters are sheltered by cliff, but there is one patch of water that can be unstable with tidal flows.
Assuming it were to be approved and published, what would you think if you saw a new cache that you might not ever be able to get to, restricted by specialised equipment and weather ?
Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
Personally, I don't think it would be a problem for most people.
I have been looking at caches recently for an upcoming honeymoon in Bali and there are a few caches that are underwater and require scuba diving equipment.
It certainly sounds like it would be one to remember!
I have been looking at caches recently for an upcoming honeymoon in Bali and there are a few caches that are underwater and require scuba diving equipment.
It certainly sounds like it would be one to remember!
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Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
There's no problem with a cache like that, as long as it's not seriously dangerous. There are plenty of caches on the tops of mountains which require certain skills - skills which not everyone will have. Just make sure the cache won't get washed away, and put appropriate warnings on the cache page 

Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
I wouldn't complain.... I probably wouldn't ever do it but I think there should be caches that are a definite challenge. In Stockholm there is a city centre cache that requires abseiling gear.
Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
We are not all equal.
I know there are some I will never physically get to, and other mental puzzle caches which risk exploding my head when I try to solve them. Good and bad, hard and easy, they all give us something to talk about.
Do you have the code for the Stockholm cache, it sounds interesting.
I know there are some I will never physically get to, and other mental puzzle caches which risk exploding my head when I try to solve them. Good and bad, hard and easy, they all give us something to talk about.
Do you have the code for the Stockholm cache, it sounds interesting.
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Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
I had a kayak-only cache in my back yard: Kayak the Tualatin! Quite popular among paddlers.
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Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
Thanks for those responses.
One other aspect of 'restrictive' is that I'm a fair weather paddler so would only be willing to maintain such a cache May through September. If it were logged as DNF in October - nothing would change until the following May.
One other aspect of 'restrictive' is that I'm a fair weather paddler so would only be willing to maintain such a cache May through September. If it were logged as DNF in October - nothing would change until the following May.
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Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
There's nothing stopping you disabling the cache for winter months. You will find that a number of people disable their mountain top caches during the winter as it can be dangerous. Of course, this doesn't stop people still going out there if they so wish. Also keep in mind that just because there is a DNF, that doesn't mean it's missing 

Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
Might not get too many takers for your effort in putting it out. I presume this one is a kayaker's cache and it's still unclaimed over a month later
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... 595bb47b0a
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... 595bb47b0a
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Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
That would make it a much more special and significant find for me and one worth keeping for a milestone markermedic143 wrote:Might not get too many takers for your effort in putting it out. I presume this one is a kayaker's cache and it's still unclaimed over a month later
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... 595bb47b0a

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Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
I did look at that one for #700 but it's not a paddle I'd want to do on my own! Access for launching nearby isn't possible so it's quite a distance to paddle as far as I could see from the maps! I'll not give up hope on it yet tho! I just need back-up!dino wrote:That would make it a much more special and significant find for me and one worth keeping for a milestone markermedic143 wrote:Might not get too many takers for your effort in putting it out. I presume this one is a kayaker's cache and it's still unclaimed over a month later
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... 595bb47b0a

Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
I visited Stockholm in late winter 2008 and browsed for caches before I went. Can I find the one I was thinking of? I'm guessing it's been archived but it was on the north end of Sodermalm where there are some small cliffs. There is however still some climbing caches: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... y&decrypt= and http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... 7e3960d11f nearby.hairytoeman wrote:Do you have the code for the Stockholm cache, it sounds interesting.
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Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
If that's Loughan island, it's accessible by motorboat - the island I'm thinking of is considerably bigger than the description makes it sound ("some trees growing out of some rocks"). You can launch at Drumaheglish marina and it's a short run downstream.medic143 wrote:Might not get too many takers for your effort in putting it out. I presume this one is a kayaker's cache and it's still unclaimed over a month later
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... 595bb47b0a
About restrictive caches, you are free to place a cache in a difficult-to-access place if you wish.
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Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
BUMP !
I still intend to set this cache. I have the basis of a description prepared, along with GPS data.
Part of me wants to include something about people taking suitable precautions for open sea kayaking and part of me wants to let people be adults and figure out for themselves what's appropriate.
Is there a 'standard' for issuing guidelines and warnings ?
Should a disclaimer be included ?
Thanks
I still intend to set this cache. I have the basis of a description prepared, along with GPS data.
Part of me wants to include something about people taking suitable precautions for open sea kayaking and part of me wants to let people be adults and figure out for themselves what's appropriate.
Is there a 'standard' for issuing guidelines and warnings ?
Should a disclaimer be included ?
Thanks
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Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
Nofitzet wrote:Is there a 'standard' for issuing guidelines and warnings ?

If it makes you feel better then do, if not then don't bother and as you say let people work it out for themselvesfitzet wrote:Should a disclaimer be included ?

I tend to put a disclaimer on my mountain caches but I think people are more prone to underestimating a mountain walk than a sea kayak


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Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
This is what we wrote for our cache: http://coord.info/GC2AH2E
And another one that I really enjoyed: http://coord.info/GC298BF
And another one that I really enjoyed: http://coord.info/GC298BF
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Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
**BUMP**fitzet wrote:While out kayaking along the coast last weekend, I passed a location that I thought might be good for a cache.
GC2RK2Y Casana Rock
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Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
Fantastic! Well done for setting this up. It's great to see a cache like this out in Howth. We won't be able to find this one any time soon unfortunately
but I look forward to reading others logs and seeing their photos
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Re: Can a cache be too 'restrictive' ?
This one looks great! Looking at a satellite picture it's really not very far out at sea, so I don't think it would be a very difficult journey with a kayak. Might even be possible to swim?
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Sense a kayaking trip coming up this week. Have Thursday off and weather forecast looks okay.
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